Mapraider.com

AAAAH OMFG. ROFL my avatar is broke!! you gave the viper a TEETHING SMILE!

it's war man!

ROFL!

Who me? Nah, must be a bug in my code :D

aahaha you and your spacer .gif's are driving me crazy. X)

Spacer GIF’s! :O *gasp* Freak, I insist you bookmark, digest and frequent the following:

http://www.zeldman.com/ - Web standards pioneer. Oh yes.
http://www.zeldman.com/dwws/ - You can buy this. :)
http://www.alistapart.com/ - Brain-child of Zeldman. A huge resource.
http://www.webstandards.org/ - Why web-standards, eh?
http://www.csszengarden.com - Brain-child of Dave Shea. Proves once and for all the CSS-based layouts own table-based layouts.
http://www.accessify.com/ - Boring looking site, but nice accessibility information.
http://www.37signals.com/svn/ - Signal vs. Noise, by 37signals.
http://www.modulo26.net/ - Sweet CSS blog.

lol :D

You're preaching to the choir. I've been visiting most of those sites since they've been around (especially A List Apart and Zeldman's own site).

Unfortunately, I don't design sites that are going to be exclusively used by compliant browsers that work perfectly. Feel free to chastize me all you want, but I have yet to see anything that works as well and reliably as spacer gifs IN ALL BROWSERS that I test with. And keep in mind that every site I develop is liquid (fills the browser window regardless of size).

This includes older versions of:

• IE PC/Mac
  
• AOL's built-in PC/Mac
  
• Netscape Navigator/Communicator
  
• Mozilla
  
• Opera
  
• OmniWeb
  
• Chimera/Camino
  
• Safari

Most of those links you provided are either fixed-width layouts or liquid layouts that don't work in one or more of those browsers (i.e. Opera, which Mapraider sees a lot of traffic from).

Sure, my HTML and CSS may be sloppy. I may use spacer-gifs, but Mapraider.com looks and works almost exactly the same in all of those browsers - and *THAT* is what I strive for.

SV and I were chatting about this last night. I said: "Build me a sample page that demonstrates alternatives and I'll test it with all my browsers." I'll gladly convert to "better" practices when I see that it does indeed work as well as I need it to.

Well, as Strong Bad’s futuristic alter-ego Stinkoman would say, “Are you asking for a challenge?” :lol:

When I’ve got some free time I’ll give it a shot. In fact, before my PC went “bang,” one of my personal projects was making GameSpot’s home-page CSS-P. I wonder if I kept a backup... :|

the thing is.. it only has to appear identical in every browser, not be identical in every browser. A major key is "performance". Mapraider takes quite a bit of time to load. This site easily looks like it can load twice as fast, no matter how much content is on the front page. Content is only the querries to the db and time it takes asp/php to build the markup. It's images, while empty or not, that browsers have to spend time rendering each and every one of them.

I'll work on that page hopefully tomorrow, possible even show you how to build images using css (its not jpg's, not gif's, but pure css)

I'll give you a link to whet your appetite :) http://www.infimum.dk/HTML/slantinfo.html
these css slants take so much less time for browsers to render than images (but are only compatable with very few browsers atm, but still)

Classy avatar, just classy. Lol

But anyways, ya it does take a bit to load, even for dsl. But still, its got great content. And with a little time can prolly be tweaked to be faster. Hehe, atleast its not pagebuilder here.

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Oh and good luck on the photoshop boxing eh, give em a [Batman] THUD![/Batman]
Hehe, always wanted to do that. But ya no can do on the annoncing, I'll be in and out of the city all week.

ROTFL! :lol: I only just noticed the new avatar. :D (Damn browser cache.)

yea you can blame FB for that one lol